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AITA for not wanting shared money used for “family generosity” without agreement?
My wife and I are both in our early 30s. We have been together for about 10 years and married for about a year.
We often argue about money and her family. In her family, it seems normal to be very generous, refuse money, pay for others during outings, or treat reimbursements as gifts. I am not against helping family and I do not want to count every cent. But I see a difference between deliberately giving a gift and automatically paying with shared money.
One example: we have bees and produce honey. My wife’s mother sometimes sells our honey to her coworkers. My wife says her mother should just keep the money. I find that strange because it is our honey, our work, and our costs. I would have no issue gifting her honey or saying, “You can keep the money this time.” But I do not think the money should automatically become hers just because she sold it.
If I pick something up for someone in her family for around €30–40, I see that as something to be reimbursed unless we agreed it was a gift. My wife thinks that in a family, this can simply be gifted.
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Once, her family helped us while we were away. Their expenses were around €25. Shortly afterwards, they gave us a money gift. My wife still transferred them significantly more than their actual expenses. To me, it felt like she was trying to “pay back” a gift immediately.
Another time, we looked after an older family member from her side for two days. We bought small items, brought food, and drove there several times. Direct costs were around €40–50 plus driving. Afterwards, that person offered to invite us for coffee and cake. I would have accepted because it was voluntary. My wife did not want to, so we paid for ourselves.
At a family outing with several adults, we ended up paying the entrance fees for everyone, even though it had not been clearly discussed as our invitation. Later someone else covered a small thing, but it did not feel proportional.
There was also a larger family gift where we were expected to contribute more. Someone much closer to the recipient contributed much less. The recipient is not financially worse off than we are, so I found the expectation difficult.
My wife says I am being stingy and that “this is how family works.” She also says that if you suggest an activity, you should be prepared to pay for everyone. I disagree. To me, “Do you want to do something together?” is not automatically “I am paying for everyone.” An invitation should be clear.
I am fine with generosity when it is conscious and agreed upon. What bothers me is when shared money, shared products, or shared work are treated as automatically available for her family, while accepting voluntary invitations or reimbursements feels almost forbidden.
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Once the husband shared the situation online, people immediately split into two very passionate camps. Some thought he was being overly focused on reimbursements and small expenses, while others completely understood why constantly volunteering shared money without discussion would slowly become frustrating over time. A lot of commenters pointed out that the real issue did not seem to be generosity itself, but the lack of communication surrounding shared finances and expectations. Others also noted how difficult these situations become once two people grow up with completely different ideas of what “normal family behavior” is supposed to look like.
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NAH. This just seems like it might be a cultural difference between your families (not based on national origin, just culture within your family) UNLESS it's always your wife being the generous one. Is any of it reciprocated, or is she always the one who jumps to pay? If so, she may need you to intervene on her behalf, as her family may be taking advantage of her generosity. If she needs you to be the bad guy, so be it. But if this is something she actually enjoys, and it is causing friction in your marriage, it may be something you might need help with, like counseling or a session with a financial advisor, to see how you could come to a compromise.
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Why don't you just keep your wife's money and your's separate. If she wants to pay for her family she can do it herself.
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Don't really know what to say here except thar having read your other posts I'd say YWBTA to stay in this ab*sive relationship....
Personally, when she first threatened you with a knife, I would have ended it there.
So ultimately I've no idea what to say here except get out of the relationship...
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I don't think either of you is TA. You just have very different attitudes to money and family, which is unfortunate in a marriage. I do think the way that you detail your complaints does indicate that it bothers you a lot and I am fairly sure your wife hears about this a lot. For example, with the honey thing, that seems a bit petty to me but I can imagine if it's just part of a pattern that gets on your nerves, every little thing just adds to it.
For most families, this kind of thing tends to even out in the long run.
If you can't both agree on how money can be dispersed, I think you need to separate out some finances.
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NTA.
I'm all about family and not keeping tabs. But this sounds more like your wife's family finding a way to take advantage of people. Or, at the very least, taking advantage of you.
I would sit down with your wife and outline some clear expectations.
MIL wants to sell the honey YOU invested time, money and energy on? Okay; then we work out a percentage of what she can keep (as a salesman) and how much you retain for your work. If a family member ASKS you to pick something up for them and you do so, reimbursement should be expected. If it's something you grab because you thought of them, it's a gift. If you are expected to pay more for a joint gift than others, you deserve a better explanation than "well, it's family".
Etc etc etc.
A marriage- or any relationship, for that matter- relies on compromise. And if she can't see your side and make some compromises, then this relationship is slowly going to deteriorate from the inside out.
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OP, family dynamics are hard but it sounds a bit like your wife wants to show off a bit around her family. Maybe have a discussion with her about why she desires to be disproportionately generous when that’s likely not the expectation from family and outside of your (her partner’s) comfort level. Good luck!
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This situation probably feels so complicated because neither person is technically trying to be cruel or selfish. The wife clearly sees generosity toward family as something natural and automatic, while the husband views shared money as something that should always involve discussion and mutual agreement first. Unfortunately, those two mindsets can clash constantly once finances become fully intertwined in a marriage.
Small things like covering dinner, gifting products, or refusing reimbursements stop feeling small once they happen repeatedly without clear boundaries. And while money itself may not be the real issue here, feeling excluded from decisions involving shared resources almost always creates resentment eventually, especially when one partner feels like their concerns keep getting dismissed as stinginess instead of legitimate discomfort.
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